Talkin' letthemeatmeat.com blues
- Quinn: did you look at that veganism thing i sent you?
- Ryan: yah i did for a while
- Ryan: i dont get the cult thing about vegans
- Ryan: do you know any vegans like that?
- Quinn: no
- Quinn: i don't really get how you can get so worked up over it
- Quinn: also i don't know any vegans that are as thin as the people he posted pictures of
- Quinn: they look more like people with eating disorders
- Ryan: yah those were ppl w/ eating disorders
- Ryan: exactly
- Quinn: idk i have been thinking about it all day
- Ryan: i don't get it
- me: what do you mean?
- Ryan: like i read the interviews w other former vegans and i just don't get where they are coming from
- Quinn: yeah it was weird
- Quinn: i find it strange that people can be dedicated to something and then repulsed by it so quickly
- Quinn: i also thought it really misstated the amount of processed food consumed
- Ryan: like everyone who was a vegan just was lazy and rich
- Quinn: yeah
- Quinn: and also that vegans either only hang out with other vegans or are a HUGE HASSLE to spend time with
- Quinn: and it seems pretty strange to paint it as so unhealthy when a huge portion of the human species' time after agricultural has been spent eating legumes and grains with tiny amounts of meat/dairy/etc
- Ryan: ya i thought that too
- Quinn: and that the criticized it while at the same time promoting the paleolithic diet
- Quinn: i just find it bizarre that people don't get the plasticity available in our diet
- Ryan: maybe they are the same people who don't believe in evolution
- Quinn: also i thought it was hilarious that he said the red eye he had in photographs was a 'classic example of b12 deficiency;
- Quinn: when it is really a classic example of eye anatomy
- Ryan: hhaaha
"Veganism is a consumer activity" by Peter Gelderloos
The crux of the matter is, veganism is a consumer activity. It is ultimately an attempt to change capitalism and human civilization through the exercise of one’s privileges as a consumer. This is an impossible approach.
Are there really all these vegans who presume their choice is going to change the food economy? For me, its a choice (one which obviously takes a significant amount of privilege to make) to not participate in a particular facet of capitalism (the meat and feminized animal product industries) because I find it particularly despicable. I am not under any illusions about the wider effect of that choice. Its not an environmentalist choice, and its not an activist choice. It has nothing to do with the morality of animal product consumption in any other context.
I find the anarchist critiques of vegetarianism and veganism fairly dull/repetitive. Which is not to say that they aren’t useful anyway.
anthropophagous
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A general overview of 'things I think are neat':abandonment/the post-industrial midwest, anarchism (syndicalism, insurrectionalism, etc), race/ethnicity (esp. defining/constructing the boundaries of whiteness), gender, class (talking/thinking about class generally seems to be an underrated activity), health care (access to, the experience of obtaining, etc), art, science fiction, punk music, conservative talk radio and anthropology (which probably incorporates almost everything else about people).
